tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2830748451146807697.post1949130368957146029..comments2023-10-28T10:53:25.783-04:00Comments on Homeschool Creations: Amazing Bible Timeline ~ ReviewJolanthe Erbhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16326090793219352196noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2830748451146807697.post-9539961468679496832009-10-28T15:25:02.388-04:002009-10-28T15:25:02.388-04:00Ladies - Thanks so much for taking the time to res...Ladies - Thanks so much for taking the time to respond to my post. While I completely respect your personal beliefs, I do feel it important to stand firm with what we believe. <br /><br />I am aware that those who belong to the LDS church do believe in Christ. In fact there are several LDS moms on the Crew that also were not fond of the timeline for various reasons. My primary issue with the timeline were the mistakes that were found, making me question what other things had been missed that do not line up with what our family personally believes. Direct references to the book of Mormon on a timeline that is being pushed toward non-LDS is an issue for me. I have visited the LDS website and in fact have friends who are LDS. I was unaware that I referred to the book of Mormon as the Mormon Bible at one point {the two other times I mentioned it, I did refer to it as the book of Mormon}. I did change that ~ thanks for pointing it out to me. Please know that I did contact the company regarding the mistakes and there have been multiple emails back and forth which only caused more concern for me.<br /><br />I am not saying that the events of Brigham Young are not historically accurate. While I understand that Brigham Young was a part of American history, I find it interesting that fact was important enough to include on the timeline, yet there is practically no history on the Chinese, the history of Africa, or other events that hold much bigger historical importance overall. And if explorations of Brigham Young were so important, I'm also thinking Lewis and Clark should have been on the timeline too.<br /><br />I understand that you believe in additional scripture {Book of Mormon}, but I do not ~ so references to that on the timeline do bother me personally. I'm sorry if you were offended. I'm not trying to get into a theological debate on stuff, but really felt it important to point out the issues that I found with the timeline for those who are not LDS. This review was one of the most difficult for me to write, but I also felt it important to stand behind our personal family beliefs and that is something I would measure any product I reviewed by, especially as the product was intended as Biblical history. I would have been equally as honest if I found mistakes or errors in another product, LDS or not.<br /><br />Thank you again for taking the time to comment. It is my hope that we can stay connected, despite our differing faith beliefs.Jolanthehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00887081852111099540noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2830748451146807697.post-79267496171698690692009-10-28T10:38:45.125-04:002009-10-28T10:38:45.125-04:00Jolanthe, I am also LDS and agree with Courtney, D...Jolanthe, I am also LDS and agree with Courtney, Denice and Theresa 100%<br /><br />I am disappointed in your harshness in this post.<br /><br />I try to be tolerant of all religions and points of view and feel that even though you did not ought right bash the LDS religion this post was harsh due to this fact.Susanahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12594529717250616264noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2830748451146807697.post-38736441514590565422009-10-28T10:04:34.924-04:002009-10-28T10:04:34.924-04:00I'm with Theresa and Denice as well.
I also f...I'm with Theresa and Denice as well.<br /><br />I also find it really hard to believe that these mistakes were anything more than that (as you imply). There are several references to popes, would you be as critical if the maker were Catholic?<br /><br />I feel like you were unnecessarily harsh because the makers were LDS.<br /><br />I hope you brought these mistakes to the attention of the creator (in a respectful way) rather than just mentioning it on your blog. That way they can correct the issue.<br /><br />The review over at raisingolives.com and homesweethomeschool.wordpress.com mentioned the same things that you did without being nearly so hostile.<br /><br />I am however, glad that you did review it, because it was brought to my attention. I will be purchasing it.<br /><br />On another note, I do LOVE your site and all of your ideas. Keep up the good work.Courtney @ Ordinary Happily Ever Afterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07778746374905378101noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2830748451146807697.post-78288182851597166372009-10-28T01:16:50.692-04:002009-10-28T01:16:50.692-04:00Jolanthe, I need to agree with Theresa here. As y...Jolanthe, I need to agree with Theresa here. As you know I also enjoy your blog and your Christian values. Did you know those who belong to The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints believe in Christ too? It says so right in the name of our church. Mormon is just a nickname someone gave us a long time ago. Yes, we believe in additional scripture, called the Book of Mormon. We study from the Bible in our home every single day and love it just as much as you do. If you go to lds.org you will see a picture of Christ on the homepage. Please take no offense at my comment, I am just interested in clearing up a myth. Yes, we are Christians too.Denicehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12074447304346879164noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2830748451146807697.post-21634612343510354772009-10-27T23:40:15.425-04:002009-10-27T23:40:15.425-04:00Jolanthe, I am a regular reader of your blog- and ...Jolanthe, I am a regular reader of your blog- and typically really, really enjoy it. However, I feel your review of the timeline was a bit harsh. I am an LDS homeschooling mom (Mormon), so as you can imagine my interest was a bit piqued by this post. I do not own the timeline, so I cannot really speak to the relevance of the historical event that was referenced in the Book of Mormon. I can, however, say that it would be unwise to discount information that perhaps may be biblically historical, but does not match your particular religious persuasion. Should we question the historical accuracy or validity of the writings of say...Mohammad and pretend they didn't happen just because this individual did not share our every religious affection? Mohammad did, indeed live, and his life had historical-even biblical significance. Some of his writings can be used to back up the validity of your own beliefs (Adam, Noah, Moses, Abraham and even Christ are mentioned in the Qu'ran). Even if you do not subscribe to the tenets of the Muslim faith, you can see why some historical information on Mohammad could be included on a Christian biblical timeline. The same could be said of the inclusion of LDS scriptural history. <br />I almost found it humorous that you picked out their inclusion of Brigham Young leading the pioneers to Utah in 1847 to your list of "inaccuracies." This fact would be taught in any American History textbook. The Mormons were a significant portion of the pioneer movement across America to settle the West. It is a part of American History. In particular, it is a part of America's religious and geographic history (an entire state was settled by this migration!), and should rightly be included on the timeline. Why didn't you decry the mention of the Mexican War of 1845 (on the line directly below)? What does that have to do with Bible Study? It seems a bit short-sided and almost discriminatory to discount the validity of the entire product due to these two inclusions. You strike me as an intelligent and capable individual who is competent enough to catch those "not so obvious" references you seem fearful of- if they do exist.<br />I would also like to point out that the Book of Mormon is never referred to as a "Mormon Bible" as you stated. We believe the King James version of the Bible is scripture, and read regularly from it. The Book of Mormon is considered "Another Testament of Jesus Christ"-- it is a record of his followers who lived in the Americas before,during and after his lifetime. It is supplemental to our study of the Bible. Should I discount the validity of every review you have posted on your entire blog because of this inaccuracy? I don't think so.<br />I am sorry this is my first post, and that it is a negative one- but I felt I should speak up. I truly have enjoyed your blog for the last year now, and love your Christ-centered approach to learning. My purpose for writing this was not to offend, but rather to offer a perspective that I hope can help you see things from a different perspective.Theresahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18333655438393662268noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2830748451146807697.post-3998714743286400572009-10-27T10:08:39.644-04:002009-10-27T10:08:39.644-04:00WOW. you are really honest. now..i really admire ...WOW. you are really honest. now..i really admire you. Other bloggers will just not post their review or will give vague review. Im quite surprise to read negative review.jenbnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2830748451146807697.post-8514119529380469232009-10-27T09:24:34.600-04:002009-10-27T09:24:34.600-04:00Ouch! This publisher will rue the day he asked TOS...Ouch! This publisher will rue the day he asked TOS to review these timelines. What a terrible product.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09628472484731723590noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2830748451146807697.post-75846584925274622582009-10-26T15:01:51.704-04:002009-10-26T15:01:51.704-04:00I have another version of this timeline (published...I have another version of this timeline (published by the same company) and I was very disappointed with it, too. The first thing that bothered me was the ridiculous inaccuracy - i.e., that they had Egypt color-coded as a descendant of Ham yet Egyptian history was older than Ham himself. The same thing occurred with Japheth and China. <br /><br />And the second thing was that in the version I had, up in the top left corner they had a chart entitled "Geological Ages and the Development of Life", describing the evolutionary process from big bang to ape man!<br /><br />They marketed it as "seeing biblical history alongside world history" but ridiculous contradictions like that caused me to believe that they really didn't believe any of the biblical side at all, just another "evolutionary creationist" who was desperately trying to "fit" the Bible into evolution and the contemporarily-accepted ancient history timeline and failing miserably.<br /><br />Thanks for your review though, it's good to save other people who were expecting something totally different from wasting their money!Doman Mom (Liz)https://www.blogger.com/profile/02391076912115076207noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2830748451146807697.post-63869514282453964532009-10-26T11:52:51.747-04:002009-10-26T11:52:51.747-04:00Thank you, thank you for this great review. I'...Thank you, thank you for this great review. I've actually looked at this timeline online before and filed it in my "down the road it'd be nice to have..." mental list. I really appreciate your integrity in reviewing it as well as letting us know about this serious flaw.Kristi_runwatchhttp://runwatchplaywait.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2830748451146807697.post-71635112894806699992009-10-26T10:36:01.457-04:002009-10-26T10:36:01.457-04:00Thank you for your review, and honesty in it. So m...Thank you for your review, and honesty in it. So many times it is easy to fall trap to that "Christian" material, only to find out later it isn't what we thought it was. I agree it is our responsibility to teach our children about our faith and what we believe in, but Yes, we truly need to read the fine print before using any materials these days. I suppose that is why I just teach form the Bible. While my curriculum comes from a Christian company, it truly teaches my way, from the Bible. Thank you again for your review and your honesty!Debbiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00132185749852282347noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2830748451146807697.post-2423821566463336042009-10-26T09:20:44.968-04:002009-10-26T09:20:44.968-04:00Jolanthe,
Thank you for an honest review. So ofte...Jolanthe,<br /><br />Thank you for an honest review. So often we will lean towards or present something to our children and feel safe w/o reviewing just because it has the stamp of Christian-based, mentions the word Bible several times, etc. (It used to be the same w/Disney movies; not anymore) and don't question the product or source. I’ve already pulled a few school books, this year, because as I read further into the lessons, I realized they weren’t promoting the same message we wanted our children to learn.<br /><br />That is very disappointing that they realize there are “mistakes” (or are they) and are not making better efforts to correct them.Milk and Honey Mommyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15155906474217382431noreply@blogger.com